The discipline of God has nothing to do with death.

Saw this posted on someone’s wall.

Let’s examine what the Bible really teaches.

The passage concern in this.

Hebrews 12:8-11

If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline —then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.


Let’s look at the context.

Hebrews 12:18

You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;

Then Paul contrast it with this.

Hebrews 12:22-23

But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

Very few realise that the discipline is about moving from Mount Sinai to Mount Zion.


It’s about living in a different covenant. Moving from Law to Grace.

Look at this.

Galatians 4:24-25

These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.

Notice Sinai is referring to the old covenant which was celebrated in the pre AD70 Jerusalem.

While Zion represents the New Covenant being the heavenly Jerusalem.


The discipline here is about moving away from Jerusalem to the hills in Judea.

Note this.

Matthew 24:16-17

then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.

See this.

Hebrews 12:12-13

Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. “Make level paths for your feet,” so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed.

ie. Get moving.


The discipline is about living with in a different environment with people of a different kind. No longer just Jews.

Hebrews 12:14-15

Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many.


God is not a sadomasochist. He is a loving father who was trying to rescue the Jews from the holocaust of Jerusalem by the Romans in Jerusalem.

Matthew 23:37

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.

God is Love.

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