70 myths about losing salvation (17): Being handed over to Satan for destruction.

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Recently I found an interesting blog which states that we can lose our salvation in 70 ways. For the complete list of the 70 “ways”, kindly refer to: http://smashingidols7.wordpress.com/2011/02/12/70-ways-a-believer-can-fall-away/  and my refute started with:https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/70-ways-of-losing-your-salvation-1-stop-believing-luke-813/   

You will find links to the rest of the myths at the end of this article. Please refer to them after your finish this article.

Myth 17: be delivered to satan for the destruction of the flesh; 1Cor 5

 

Dear friends,

This is a classic case of taking Scripture out of its context. It represents a very shallow and superficial understanding of Scripture.

Let’s deal with the verse in its context.

This is the context. Paul was dealing with a case of incest. See 1 Corinthians 5.

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

Note the motive of Paul’s actions, so that his spirit may be saved. Paul is doing this so that this person does not lose his salvation. (Not that he can lose it anyway).

In fact, this man actually was saved! See 2 Corinthians 2:5-8

5 IF ANYONE HAS CAUSED GRIEF, HE HAS NOT SO MUCH GRIEVED ME AS HE HAS GRIEVED ALL OF YOU TO SOME EXTENT—NOT TO PUT IT TOO SEVERELY. THE PUNISHMENT INFLICTED ON HIM BY THE MAJORITY IS SUFFICIENT.NOW INSTEAD, YOU OUGHT TO FORGIVE AND COMFORT HIM, SO THAT HE WILL NOT BE OVERWHELMED BY EXCESSIVE SORROW. I URGE YOU, THEREFORE, TO REAFFIRM YOUR LOVE FOR HIM.

So what Paul did worked. He returned and repented to the church!

So pray tell me how in the world, can someone construe this verse to say that Paul handed this man to Satan so that he will lose his salvation?

Paul says in verse 2 and 7 and 13 that the man who is guilty of this impenitent immorality is to be removed from the church: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves” (v. 13). But he gives his answer more fully in verses 3-5: “For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present.” In other words Paul cannot be there in person, but says that he will exert what influence he can from a distance (perhaps by prayer) to see that the discipline is effective.

He goes on in verse 4: “In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled [which is why we are not doing this in private, but in the assembly of the church], and I with you in spirit [in other words, you can count on Paul’s approval and the presence of his influence by prayer], with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 I have decided [that you ought] to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

To what does it refer?

This man is, in effect, excommunicated from the church so that he can experience the full spiritual, physical, emotional, mental and social consequences of his sinful actions. Essentially what this means for the church is that they should not fellowship with him (see 5:10-11, 13), for it is primarily in fellowship with other Spirit-led believers where there is grace, peace, mercy, and love.

The hope is that when he sees how destructive his actions were to himself and to his life, and when he begins to miss the loving fellowship of other believers, he will repent of his ways, and be restored to fellowship (cf. 2 Thess 3:14-15).

So take heart. God is able to do all things to ensure your salvation is intact!

That’s myth 17. Here are the rest!

For myth No. 2, please go to: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/70-myths-about-losing-salvation-myth-no-2-hardening-your-heart-hebrews-312-13-3/”>https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/70-myths-about-losing-salvation-myth-no-2-hardening-your-heart-hebrews-312-13-3/

For myth No. 3, 20 and 50 please refer to:https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/70-myths-about-losing-salvation-myth-3-and-20-you-can-lose-your-salvation-if-you-shrink-back-and-when-you-sin-willfully-3/

For myth No: 4 please refer to:https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-4-doctrine-of-demons-3/

For myth No: 5 please see:https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-5-turning-away-to-satan-1-tim-515-2-2/

For myth No. 6: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-shipwrecking-your-faith-2/

For myth No. 7: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-7-spat-out-for-being-lukewarm-5-2/

Myth No. 8: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/70-myths-on-losing-your-salvation-8-being-sexually-immoral-or-godless-like-esau-4/

Myth No. 9: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-9-being-castaway-1-cor-927/

Myth N0. 10: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/16/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-10-becoming-worthless-salt-good-for-nothing-but-to-be-cast-out-and-trodden-underfoot-of-men-matt-513-9-2/

Myth 11: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-11-be-cut-off-as-a-worthless-branch-4/

Myth No. 12: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/70-myths-on-losing-salvation-12-remove-your-lamp-stand-if-you-dont-repent/

Myth 13: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/70-ways-of-losing-salvation-myth-13-adultery-with-jezebel-revelation-2-20-23-3-2/

Myth 15: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/myth-15-on-losing-salvation-teach-balaams-doctrines-that-jesus-hates-rev-214-16/

Myth 16: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/70-myths-about-losing-salvation-16-blotted-out-from-the-book-of-life-rev-211-35-4-2/

 

9 Comments

  1. so to speak, once saved, the salvation is very hard to go away. seems there are a lot of things needed to be undone first.

    1 Timothy 1:20
    “Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme”

    this may be off topic, is this an effective way of teaching someone who is in err? to hand them over to Satan? is it literally or just part of speech like ‘thorn in the flesh’ ?

    – grace and peace

    1. Repentance has nothing to do with what is usually taught. It’s about leaving the old covenant and embracing the new covenant.

  2. How can you say Paul’s motive was to keep him from losing salvation and then saying it isn’t possible to lose it. You never explained may save his spirit in the day of the Lord.

    1. Please read this excerpt.

      I so wish that every preacher of the gospel, every teacher, and every Christian would understand this blog by Jonathan Welton:

      Blog 5: When was the Old Covenant to New Covenant Transition?

      There are two things that most Christians understand about the Old and New Covenants

      1. Jesus Started the New Covenant at the Cross

      2. Jesus Ended the Old Covenant at the Cross

      Yet there is a third aspect which extremely few Christians (even many respected teachers) understand, which is the fact that the Old Covenant didn’t immediately disappear at the Cross, but

      (#3) it began a process of disintegration which completed when the Temple was destroyed in 70AD.

      To not understand this third aspect is to misread much of the context of the New Testament.

      The clearest picture of this fading is in

      Hebrews 8:13: “By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.”

      Yes the cross made the Mosaic Covenant obsolete and outdated in 30AD, but it was still in the process of disappearing, which was completed in 70AD.

      Another picture is in First John:

      “For the darkness is disappearing and the true light is already shining.” -1 John 2:8b (NLT)

      In the New Testament, the Old Covenant is consistently referred to as a time of darkness and the New Covenant is shown to be an age of light.

      Based on that imagery, the New Covenant light was already shining since the cross, but the darkness was still in process of disappearing.

      Also the Apostle Paul speaks of that OC Age passing away and the Temple System rulers passing away with it:

      “Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away.” 1 Cor. 2:6 ESV

      “Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away.” 1 Cor. 2:6 NASB

      When a teacher only acknowledges that the OC was made obsolete at 30AD and the NC was established at 30AD, but they ignore that the OC lingered until its removal in 70AD, the whole backdrop of the New Testament will be distorted.

      Debates that were raging in the early church such as the following will make no sense:
      who is a true Jew (Rom 9:6-9),
      are genders and races equal (Gal 3:28),
      does circumcision still matter (Gal. 6:15),
      and what of OC celebrations (Col. 2:16)?

      These debates only make sense in between 30-70AD, but should not extend beyond that time period. 70AD settled those debates.

      Oh that all good teachers of the Word would begin to understand this simple concept which clarifies so much of the New Testament!

      – Dr Jonathan Welton

      “After reading this, maybe some people will learn to start redefining what the ‘kingdom of darkness’ and the ‘kingdom of light’ actually were.

      This is also the true meaning of Israel being ‘born from above’ and the true meaning of ‘setting the captives (of the Old Covenant) free’. ”

      – DK

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