70 myths about losing salvation: Myth 3 and 20. You can lose your salvation if you “shrink back” and when you “sin willfully””

Myth 3:  But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. Hebrews 10:39

Myth 20: sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, and receive a fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation which will devour God’s adversaries. Hebrews 10:26

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Recently I found an interesting blog which states that we can lose our salvation in 70 ways. For the complete list of the 70 “ways”, kindly refer to:https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/70-ways-of-losing-your-salvation-1-stop-believing-luke-813/ 

For myth No. 2, please go to: https://hischarisisenough.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/70-myths-about-losing-salvation-myth-no-2-hardening-your-heart-hebrews-312-13-3/

I must state my caveats 1st. The intention of this series of blog is NOT to refute BUT to explain in context what the verses which were use to support the writer’s contentions. This series of blogs are also not to demean NOR to prove him wrong. It is not even addressed to him but to many who share his views and as such are in a position of uncertainty. The point of this series of blogs is to give you an alternative view of what these verses mean and that you when reading this will be sure of the finished work of Christ. 

And so that being out of the way, let us hope, words which may amount to slander and accusations may not be used against the writer or against me. To use words such as “heresy”, “satanic” or “false prophet” is childish and not Christ minded. If you can call me that, I can also address the same. I am not interested in that. I am interested in all of us finding the truth. 

We will deal with 3rd “way of losing our salvation”. The writer states we can lose our salvation by “drawing back unto perdition”.

The writer quotes Hebrews 10:39. The King James Version from which the writer quotes from does not really bring out the meaning. The meaning of the verse is best illustrated in the NIV.

“But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.”

The writer as such suggests that if Christians “shrink back” will be destroyed.

Again one must consider the context of such a statement. Let’s look at it. What is Hebrews 10 about? If you read the whole chapter carefully, you would note that the writer of Hebrews is addressing the Hebrews (not Gentiles) in relation of temple worship also known as the worship by way of the blood of bulls and goats as compared to a new and living way of worship offered by the blood of Jesus.

The writer stresses that while the blood of bulls and goats secure forgiveness year after year. The blood of Jesus offers forgiveness once and for all. It is here, the writer of Hebrews tells the Jews to believe in Jesus rather than the worship of the blood of bulls and goats.

Today many believers think the reason the veil of the temple is torn is to allow Christians to enter into the Holy of Holies of the temple of Solomon. It is not. The reason the veil was torn because God does not want the worship to continue in that temple.

He wants us to worship in His temple. The temple of eternity. That is why there is a new veil. It is the body of Jesus. See: Hebrews 10: 19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God…

Note the new and living way is the new curtain, the body of Jesus. Now look at the purpose why the veil of Solomon’s temple is removed. See Hebrews 9: The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still functioning.

Notice there is a difference between the Most Holy Place and the first tabernacle. The first tabernacle refers to the temple of Solomon where as the Most Holy Place is the very seat in heaven.

So long as the Temple of Solomon stands, the Holy Spirit will not disclose the way to the Most Holy Place of heaven.

 

God wants to rid the temple practices because God does not live in the temple of Solomon anymore but in everyone of us who has placed their belief in the Son. This is because the system of bulls and goats doesn’t work. The offering of His Son did. Hence there is a new curtain, a new veil, a new and living way. The body of Jesus!

So the writer writes about a fiery indignation. A few years after Hebrews is written, the Romans burn the temple of Solomon down. See: 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

The following is probably the text that confused many Christians. This is the passage which speaks about “Sinning Willfully” which presupposes that the blood of Jesus only clean your past sins.

Here is the passage from the Jewish New Testament.

26 For if we deliberately continue to sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but only the terrifying prospect of Judgment, of raging fire that will consume the enemies.[f]

28 Someone who disregards the Torah of Moshe is put to death without mercy on the word of two or three witnesses.[g]29 Think how much worse will be the punishment deserved by someone who has trampled underfoot the Son of God; who has treated as something common the blood of the covenant[h] which made him holy; and who has insulted the Spirit, giver of God’s grace!

Notice this sin is a singular sin. It is the same sin mentioned in Hebrews 12:1. One sin. That sin is only possible “after receiving the knowledge of the truth”. Before receiving the knowledge of the truth, you cannot perform this “sin” and the damage only comes when you do it “willfully”. Thus it cannot mean your every day “sins” because all your daily sins are willful.

What then is this “sin”? If you read about this “sin” in Hebrews 12, it is also the sin that entangle “us”. By now you should know the word “us” mean the Jews. What is the cure for this “sin” then? The writer of Hebrews says to look at Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

So what then is this “sin” that only be cured by fixing our eyes upon Jesus? It is found a few verses thereafter. It is to treat the blood of Jesus like common blood. Look at the context of Hebrews 10. We do not treat Jesus blood like common blood when we sin. We treat the blood of Jesus like common blood if we treat it like the blood of bulls and goats. How?

Well the blood of bulls and goats give you annual and temporal forgiveness. Jesus’ blood cleanses you forever because your sins are taken away (yes even the ones which you have not done) once and for all. Some of you here would argue your future sins are not taken away. But let me ask you something, when Jesus died were your born yet? Were the sins you committed before you came to Jesus future sins the moment Jesus died? Of course. So are the sins you will commit from the point of the cross.

As such “the knowledge of the truth” is to know the sacrifice provided the law, the Torah i. e. the blood of bulls and goats (common blood) cannot save you. Only the blood of Jesus can.

Thus this “sin” simply means not believing Jesus but reverting to believing to that the religious system of the blood of bulls and goats saves you. Simply said going back to worship provided by the temple of Solomon. In short, going back to the Torah to obtain your salvation.

By the way this is what Peter spoke about as “deny Him AFTER having escaped the pollutions of this world through the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, and your latter end can become worse than before you knew Him. 2Pet 2:20-22. What he then called “ a dog going back to his vomit”.

So then after they  have this knowledge and you go back to the law there is no more sacrifice for them. This is because  they have rejected the one and only way for [absolute] forgiveness for sins.

You would by now note I used the term “they” and not “you”. Well so did the writer of Hebrews. See again verse 39: “But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.”

The writer is actually saying “we” being the Jewish Christians are not those (unbelieving Jews).

Hence is you read this verse, it actually does not refer to  that of  a shrinking Christian but an unbelieving Jew.

One further note, it is important to recognize that a Gentile was never under the Torah or the Law. As such the returning to the Law can never ever happen to a Gentile unless he is a proselyte. So again rest assured, the passage is not referring to the Gentile Christian. Be at peace.  We are the ones that have faith!

 

  

 

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23 thoughts on “70 myths about losing salvation: Myth 3 and 20. You can lose your salvation if you “shrink back” and when you “sin willfully””

  1. I have one question though, what about this verse:

    “All who are VICTORIOUS will be clothed in white. I will never “ERASE THEIR NAMES” from the Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels that they are mine.” Revelation 3:5 (NLT)

    This verse seems to suggest that Jesus erases names from the Book of Life, what do you think?

    • I mean, what about the condition, that says “who are victorious”, what about those who are not victorious? Would He do the opposite?

      • the words “who are victorious” in the NIV is translated as overcomers. Read 1 John 5. How does one become an overcomer?

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  3. I am amazed after reading many of your blogs how you seem to take the entire book of Hebrews, full of wonderful riches and truth and make it null and void for today’s Christian by applying it solely to Jews of the past. With your “logic” one could “null and void” most of the Bible by saying it was written to the people of the time in which it was written. “Ephesians was written only for the church in Ephesus, Corinthians was written only for the church in Corinth”, etc.

    Over several blogs you have wiped out most of Hebrews as not applicable to today’s Christian. I am offended. It makes some young Christians awefully comfortable to believe that once they receive Jesus as Savior no matter what they do they will never lose their salvation. Does becoming a Christian mean saying a prayer (no)? Does it mean believing Jesus died for us? What if their belief is not deep enough? With your musings you have virtually “wiped out” Hebrews 6:4-6 which to most scholars is the definition of one who is truly saved (tasted of the heavenly gift has NOTHING to do with eating earthly manna, btw).

    If man has a free will before he is saved, I am most certain he has a free will after he is saved. He can shoose to walk away, not by sinning but by decision.

    • Thank you Bill for your genuine concern with reference to the writings. Please note I have never said the book of Hebrews do not apply to Christians. I merely said it was written to the Hebrews. I did not say it was not written FOR us.

      Let me explain myself. The book of Hebrews is very Jewish in its nature. If you read the book in a sitting i.e. the whole book at one go, you will realize that the major theme in the book is that the writer is trying to tell his Jewish brothers to abandon Judaism and believe onto Christ. As such the book of Hebrews draw parallels between the old covenant and Jesus the mediator of the new covenant.

      For eg. chapter 1 and 2 speaks about the ministry of the angels and Jesus. Chapter 3 speaks about the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Chapter 4 the Old Sabbath and Jesus our new Sabbath and etc.

      As such when you come to Hebrews 6, you have to understand the comparison is between what the Jews experienced and what the believers were experiencing. Hence the writer differentiates those who fall away as “they”. He then turn to address believers in verse 9 and called us “beloved” and assures us that we have better things of salvation.

      Similarly like in Chapter 9 the writer addresses the worship in the old temple and the real temple in heaven. So in Chapter 10 he speaks about the blood of bulls and goats and the blood of Christ.

      What I am trying to say is this. The stuff in the old covenant does not apply to us. The stuff in the new does. We are in the new covenant not the old.

      I am grateful you point to the fact that young people may interpret this and go out and sin. That is a caveat I take with grave seriousness. But then again, why do people sin? It is because there is no 10 commandments to forbid them? No they sin because they are born sinners. Also if you read your bible carefully. You would note that the law was given so that people will sin even more. See 1 Corinthians 15:56. The power of sin is the law. See also: Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

      See also Romans 7: “You shall not covet.”[b] 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting.

      Notice it is sin who uses the law to produce sinful desires. That is why God dealt away with the old covenant. Dear Bill, I too was like you, thinking like you did. But I have many letters written to me about how many have overcome a sinful lifestyle when they realize that God has already forgiven them once and for all. I have had people healed, delivered of demons, marriages reconciled, people getting off drugs, alcohol and booze.

      So I do know what I am doing. You have to understand Hebrews is my favourite book. The book assures me of all things that my salvation is secure. But as I am saying to you there are certain parts of the book which are for us but not to us, just like if I am reading a letter that is addressed to you, I will read things about you which are beneficial to me but they will be things which are totally irrelevant to me.

      I am sorry if you do feel offended. But If you tell me that the finished work of Jesus can be undone by our failure to obey or sinning, then I am more offended. So I hope you know where i am coming from. I am 100% against sin but I am 100% convinced the Gospel in sin proof.

      Now in relation to books like Corinthians and Ephesians, let me just drop you a short note. Note that there are 4 gospels. Matthew is written to the Jewish audience, Mark a group of Jews in Galilee, Luke to the Gentiles, John was written to 2nd generation Christians. Acts is written to Gentiles, Romans and the letters of Paul to Gentiles and the rest Jews. Yes even Revelation. A good clue is to look at the preamble of each letter.

      But like I say I am not using “logic” but one must know which part of the Scriptures apply to us and others as a warning for us BUT NOT TO us.

      Again Bill thank you for your honest candid comment. I hope that clarifies things. Lastly, I stand to differ from your view that you can walk away by decision. But that’s for another day.

      For now, I am thankful you love God enough to rebuke me. Let’s agree to disagree and agree on the fact that Jesus loves us and died for us. Cheers.

      Simon

      • You wrote, “But If you tell me that the finished work of Jesus can be undone by our failure to obey or sinning, then I am more offended. So I hope you know where I am coming from.”

        First, I have said in both my posts that the finished work of Jesus can never be undone by our failure to obey or by sinning. I know this to be true. If we are not saved “by works of righteousness” (Titus 3:5) then we cannot be “unsaved” by works of unrighteousness. But if we are saved by believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ, then we can walk away by refusing to believe anymore. I believe that if one walks away after truly knowing and receiving what Jesus did for them then they can never come back again because they have rejected the work of Jesus in their life.

        This is why I examine my life regularly. Is Jesus living in me? Am I an example to other believers? Is fruit being produced in my life? 2 Corinthians 13:5 says, “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you– unless, of course, you fail the test?” Remember that Paul is talking to Christians here. Why would he say to examine yourselves to see if you are in the faith if we can not fall away? And you know that all through the New Testament Paul uses the euphemism “in the faith” to refere to being a Christian.

        I do know where you are coming from. I once believed as you did ‘that once saved, always saved’. However I have come to realize that was Calvinist doctrine that I was taught by well-meaning people. After many years of walking with the Lord I started seeing things in scripture that did not line up with what I was taught.

        When I truly started relying on the Holy Spirit to show me the truth of scripture I was forced to change my understanding of many things. It was not comfortable, let me tell you. My flesh was comfortable and did not want to change. But I realize now that it was the Holy Spirit doing His work in me. I constantly ask him to keep that sanctification work going. The “surgeon’s knife” is not comfortable but it does bring healing.

        I know you are well-meaning and desire for your readers to become better disciples. I do not hold your beliefs against you, but hope to challenge you more and more, as I hope you will challenge me to search the scriptures. I will put your blog in my favorites, and read them from time to time.

      • Dear Bill. I was making a hypothetical comparison and was using a generic ‘you’. I hope that clarify things.

        Sure Bill lets go through the journey together. Cheers.

  4. Thanks bro. Simon for posting and I appreciate your way of applying biblical principles that is exegetical correct for me rather than just a logical one. I was raised from believing i could lose my salvation and I defended it as I can like the others. As of now, continuing my grace walk in the Lord the Lord let me realized that my life is in Jesus and Jesus lives through me. He lives his life through me. As simple as that that I never own my life now! My salvation is not being deposited at the bank of heaven that anytime I want to withdraw it I still have the right to have it. My life has been bought or purchased by the blood of the Lamb. The one who bought me has the right in my life now. I don’t have the right and the power even my own free will to decide to withdraw my life again.With due respect to those who still or always believe they could lose their salvation, I chose to accept that I’m eternally saved and no amount of sin and decision will vary the facts that Jesus had already paid in full my salvation. As for this, I could be able now to live His new life of holiness, obedience and persistence.

  5. I and I repeat I have been crucified with Christ I am dead to sin, eternally purged from sin already seated with Christ praise his wonderful Name

  6. Hey Simon I read this and I’m kinda confused the text says and if my righteous one shrinks back, meaning there is a possibility of a righteous standing person with God to shrink back, and we’re made righteous in Christ. How can this not be referring to Christians? The Jews were not righteous unless they believed in Christ because no one is made righteous by the Law so the only way anyone could be considered righteous is if their believers otherwise what would they be shrinking back from or how can they shrink back from righteousness (Christ)? Please explain to me how this does not not apply to me because this verse has really been attacking me. I was a believer who shrank back…..wayyyyy back. All i want is to be with my Father I know he loves me and has shown me this but I sinned grievously against him especially with my spiritual adultery/apostasy which so many commentators equate with the unforgivable sin and the sin unto death, which would seem im guilty of. I’m not sure how I can stand before God and he says well done good and “faithful” servant after such sins against him. Please help me…..

  7. I am overjoyed when I read your posts, and this one is a good one!. I have decided to reply before reading any of the responses, as there are some that are so off kilter, they detract from the purity of your point. and I recognize once again the religious yoke, and have no desire to come under that type of bondage again. That’s another form of muck and mire Jesus pulled me out of! and even when I fall His, when my failures are apparent, my shortcomings are a plenty, I now know His grace is more than enough, and nothing I do or don’t do will change that.
    Thanks again, for your posts and responses, you are able to disagree, with the naysayers without being disagreeable. Or compromising your beliefs.

  8. It is clear that when a man believes the Gospel of the Grace of God and trusts Christ for Salvation, that believer is sealed unto the day of the Rapture (Ephesians 1:13 and 4: 30). As Ephesians 4:30 clearly shows, the believer remains sealed unto the day of the Rapture even though he may ‘grieve’ the Spirit by which he is sealed. We also read in (John 5:24), that Jesus assures us that we who believe in Him shall NEVER perish, but have ALREADY passed from death unto life. Jesus attached no conditions upon that assurance. In (John 6: 28 & 29),we read where Jesus in answering the question put to Him by the Jews,’what shall we do that we might work the works of God?, answered and said to them, ‘This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom God hath sent’. And again, in ( Romans 8:33 &34), Paul assures believeres that God will not charge believers with sin, since Christ died for them. As it says in (Romans 4: 8), ‘Blessed is the man unto whom God will not impute sin’.I believe that the way God deals with a believer who uses Grace as a license to sin is to chastise him or her, as a Father chastises a wayward son or daughter.See (1 Corinthians 11:32) and (Hebrews 4:11). It was the way God dealt with that fornicating Corinthian brother in the church at Corinth, who repented of his sinful life-style, and was restored to christian fellowship in the church.

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